This is a two-in-one post.
Part One: My Personal Query Update
As in previous posts, here are some current query numbers (note this is for both agents here at LA):
- Total queries sent from July 13th - August 30th: 1,251
- Queries sent with an unsolicited attachment (aka - automatic delete unread with no response): 91
- Queries which led to requested materials: 43*
*This request rate is very high for the number of queries received (even more so when you axe about 100 of them as automatic rejects for the attachments).
Part Two: My Personal Opinion on Query Updates
It's not a huge secret that I enjoy typing up posts and Tweeting to help authors find the right agents and/or publishers. I've been watching some of the online query-related events unfold, and I just want to split things up in a way that explains various query-related events.
There's a huge difference between giving advice and just being disrespectful. I try my best to be on the respectful end, but at the same time, if you're going to be disrespectful, I may use it as an example to teach others what not to do.
For example, Slush Pile Hell: While the author of the blog makes snarky remarks and pastes quotes from actual query letters, I feel they're trying to educate (in a humorous manner) people. It's no secret agents get hundreds and even thousands of queries (did you see the stats above?). Even someone like me who genuinely enjoys reading queries will get burnt out after a while if we keep seeing the same, big mistakes.
I'm not talking about word count or even something like putting the query in first person - I'm talking about the queries that come in the form of "Could you please let me know if you are taking submissions?" or "You're probably not even going to read this, but I figured, why not? Send it anyway." or "Hey you, So I have this story..."
Those big and disrespectful mistakes are things that should be pointed out. Those people, in my opinion, did not do their homework and didn't take the time to treat their submission in a serious and professional manner. So yea, SPH points them out and responds in a snarky way. He/she takes something that is part of our daily lives (as agents) and puts them on display for people to see. If you've ever wondered why some agents don't even reply to queries or why we get backed up, that's part of the reason - we have to sift through all of those.
(Note: I said 'part' of the reason).
More examples, such as #queries or #queryfail.
Sure. I've used both hashtags on Twitter. Every now and then when I read queries, I'll post why I rejected and then use the hash tag #queries. But I'll be very vague. Example, "YA paranormal. Not my style. Reject." or "Adult UF. Don't rep. Reject." I don't mention what type of PR (unless it's one of the big 3 - werewolves, vamps and angels b/c they're saturating the market) and I don't give super detailed specifics.
As far as #queryfail goes, I do it every once in a while, but in a similar way to SPH. I don't make fun of people and say "Hahahaha! Witches in outerspace! What WERE they thinking?" (I've never received a query for one of those; not gonna lie - if the pitch was good, I'd read it). I just try to point out the really rude and completely baffling things that come across my desk.
Finally, industry interns vs. industry professionals.
Huge difference.
I was an intern for two agencies before I started working at LA. My Twitter account was locked during that time, and if I Tweeted about the industry, only my followers saw it - who were also fellow interns and mentors themselves. I never Tweeted anything about what I read, whether it was slush, partials or fulls.
Why?
Because though I was not an employee, I still represented those agencies. And it was not my place to publicly discuss queries (regardless of how vague I could've been), partials and fulls that were addressed to people who are not me. If I had Tweeted information addressed to those at the agencies, my T-Rex butt would've been fired.
Now, I represent myself and the agency as an employee. If I discuss queries, partials and fulls, then I discuss those only addressed to me - not anyone else here (except for numbers, as seen above - those are just numbers and don't give out any form of information like genre, etc).
And while my blog dictates that the views on this blog and my Twitter account are strictly my own and not that of my employer, I know people will still judge based on what they read here and on Twitter; ergo, I make it a point to ensure that the people I work with have full access to the information I post and even discuss it with them from time to time. I don't do or say anything that I feel will directly affect or harm the agency.
I'm not anonymous. I'm not an intern. I'm not hiding my credentials. You know who I am, what I do and how long I've been in the business. I want people to trust me as an agent, a source for current information in the industry and as a blogger. I make it a point to be transparent in a professional manner, so that when you have a question about something publishing related, you know you can find the answer here without worrying about the source.
Also, as an intern, when you go for a job, you'll be Googled. It's a guarantee. If you spend time networking with industry folks (as anonymous or not) (whether it's this industry or not) and get a job interview, what if you're potential employer looks down on your Tweeting messages that were not sent to you? How can they trust you'll be confidential about their information if they were to hire you? You've just burned a bridge that could've helped pave your way to a great career.
As far as anonymity goes, this is what I've learned from watching others: no one's ever anonymous. Ever.
A fellow colleague once said, "Publishing is the tiniest big business you'll ever encounter." I agree. It's a big industry, but the networking is super tight - even if I've never met someone, I've at least heard of them.
As a former computer teacher, I used to tell my students, "Don't put anything on the Internet that you wouldn't put on a billboard off of a major highway." And I still stand by it. Why? Because even if you think you're anonymous and no one will ever find out, chances are someone will. Whether it's through word of mouth, process of elimination or even just some good, ol' Internet searches (hello, IP address?).
Interns are great. Seriously. #WonderIntern (my clients seriously created a hash tag for her) is awesome, and #SuperIntern (from the summer) was just as kick ass. Neither of them Tweet about anything they read in the office. Ever. And they don't offer advice, because they're still in the learning stages, as all interns are. If you go to the doctor, are you going to ask the doctor for advice or the intern?
Yet they're still very valuable to us and very much a huge part of our company.
The Internet is a great source of information, but it's also noisy as hell. I hope this helps you filter it a bit better.
Next post will (hopefully) be a video! *dances*
Happy weekend to all!!
~KO
"Witches in outer space" sounds awesome.
This was a great post, Kathleen. I love getting your opinion on the topic. Thanks for sharing.
This is very interesting. I've been watching some of this unfold on Twitter, and which "side" was in the wrong seemed very clear to me, but this post definitely makes me think twice.
I think the etiquette and repercussions of Twitter as a medium haven't fully settled yet. It's a public forum, and some people--whether they're posting #queryfails or criticizing those who do--seem to act before considering that.
Great post, thank you for sharing your view on it!
Yes, I have to admit, when I saw that- I had to toss the witches in outer space idea around for a moment before I continued reading. Drew a blank- sticking to the morbid fairy tales for now. LOL.
I do love your query updates. It gives real insight into the world of an agent.
I love that you are honest and upfront about things. I feel that not only do we learn about the market through the tweets you decide to share, but we learn a lot about your personal taste. And in some ways I think the #queryfail helps more than slushpile hell because I am more likely to make the former mistakes. Especially when it's something like "Don't rep this genre" ect. So thanks for all you do!
So, if you spent on average 2 minutes reading those queries and sample pages (which I'd assume is more, but I used a low-end in anticipation of you being a fast reader and some queries being so bad you don't need a full 2 minutes), that's 45 hours of doing nothing but reading queries. Lawsy, that's a lot of time, and it's definitely understandable interns are necessary filters.
I've noticed as I query most of my requests and rejections happen during the weekends. It shows an enormous level of dedication on an agent's part to know they are both fully behind their clients all week and still finding time for possible future clients on their weekends.
Thanks for clarifying things. It's always good to know what an agent thinks as all agents think differently.
Slush Pile Hell is great - I love it. It's done in such a way that can't be taken personally and humour is a great way to get your message across and for the readers to remember.
I would totally read witches in outer space.
And this is a great post.
Harry Potter sci-fi? Sweet. ;)
I love reading your query stats, and your reasoning makes sense to me. Thanks for the time you spend steering writers in the right direction.
Wonderful advice. I wish more people would follow it.
Wonderful post! I tend to delete agents and interns off my list of blogs or Twitter accounts when I see them being over the top negative or what I consider mean. I have a couple agents on my blog roll, because they're ones you are suppposed to follow, but I don't read them anymore...They don't seem to give any useful advice. If I want comedy I can go to a comedy club...
Thank you for sharing your wisdom....much appreciated.
I'm not on Twitter, but I have seen some of the internet discussions on this topic. This post reflects my own opinions as a writer currently going through the querying process (general, okay, for those of us who have done the research, but please don't send us out to be laughed at). Thanks for the explanation and for your professionalism.
This is a wonderful post about professional not only for agents, but that writers need to remember. I deleted my Twitter account, I wasn't on it long, but I have checked out some agent's accounts. When I have read some public messages, I'll be honest, I don't query them. I wouldn't want them to represent me, though I am sure they are fine missing out on one query LOL.
I have a question about your query requirements...You mentioned--I forget where--that you are amazed/annoyed by the number of people who don't send in the form required by Lowenstein Associates. But when I checked the website's submission guidelines, I didn't see anything about a form...Am I mistaken, or is there some kind of query letter jargon that I haven't heard about/don't understand...?
Btw, this was a great article about keeping things professional on the Web...I know a lot of people who would benefit from reading this. Also, I googled Slush Pile Hell and laughed for about an hour. ;)